Possible Coaches

[psu_DC]

After watching Ed be his usual lost self for most of the second half against MSU, I have a proposal to answer the title of this thread (for a 2 year term).
Head Coach Rokk
Asst Coach-Hoopla
Asst Coach FanofPSU
Asst Coach  PSU_DC
Recruiting Coordinator Kid Cayote
We will work for 1/2 the salary and win as many games as Eddie D. The savings of about 500,000-600,000 per year could be used by the University to entice a good coach to take this job.

I just want to make the schedules, nothing else

[hoopla]

After watching Ed be his usual lost self for most of the second half against MSU, I have a proposal to answer the title of this thread (for a 2 year term).
Head Coach Rokk
Asst Coach-Hoopla
Asst Coach FanofPSU
Asst Coach  PSU_DC
Recruiting Coordinator Kid Cayote
We will work for 1/2 the salary and win as many games as Eddie D. The savings of about 500,000-600,000 per year could be used by the University to entice a good coach to take this job.

I just want to make the schedules, nothing else

You are now the scheduler in our fantasy coaching tree. I have received a few PM's requesting Video Coordinator. However, we cannot add a new position due to finances. It is apparent the current coaches are not watching any video, so I must deny these requests.

[danlauver]

It cracks to me up when people on here say that ED should be gone if he finishes 0-18.  To me there is no diffence between 0-18, 1-17,2-16, 3-16, 4-14...All should be be deemed unacceptable, and Dechellis should be held accountable.  Are the expectations of this program so low that it would takes an unperfect season (0-18) for most to call for the coaches ouster?  If so, that is scary.  I expect better.  Maybe I'm in the minority?

[psu_DC]

It cracks to me up when people on here say that ED should be gone if he finishes 0-18.  To me there is no diffence between 0-18, 1-17,2-16, 3-16, 4-14...All should be be deemed unacceptable, and Dechellis should be held accountable.  Are the expectations of this program so low that it would takes an unperfect season (0-18) for most to call for the coaches ouster?  If so, that is scary.  I expect better.  Maybe I'm in the minority?

I think most people are resigned to the fact that the AD will find an excuse to keep him for 1 more year based on even 1 win.  In the strange universe where the Penn State athletic department handles men's basketball decisions, this makes perfect sense.  We don't have an AD that has ever made rational decisions regarding this program, and so we've been forced to secretly hope for a record so bad that he is cornered with no excuses, and no choice but to make the change that is obviously necessary.

[pmhewitt]

It cracks to me up when people on here say that ED should be gone if he finishes 0-18.  To me there is no diffence between 0-18, 1-17,2-16, 3-16, 4-14...All should be be deemed unacceptable, and Dechellis should be held accountable.  Are the expectations of this program so low that it would takes an unperfect season (0-18) for most to call for the coaches ouster?  If so, that is scary.  I expect better.  Maybe I'm in the minority?

I think you are misreading things.  Many of us think it will take 0-18 for PSU to get rid of Ed.  And even then, many, including myself, aren't so sure it will happen.

[hoopla]

It cracks to me up when people on here say that ED should be gone if he finishes 0-18.  To me there is no diffence between 0-18, 1-17,2-16, 3-16, 4-14...All should be be deemed unacceptable, and Dechellis should be held accountable.  Are the expectations of this program so low that it would takes an unperfect season (0-18) for most to call for the coaches ouster?  If so, that is scary.  I expect better.  Maybe I'm in the minority?

Trust me on this one-if PSU wins 2 games, especially their last 2 games, the low excpectation fans will say-"This team has started to come together and I can't wait until next year". Curley will be doing cartwheels in his office and considering an extension for "RECRUITING" purposes only.

[UncleLar]

It cracks to me up when people on here say that ED should be gone if he finishes 0-18.  To me there is no diffence between 0-18, 1-17,2-16, 3-16, 4-14...All should be be deemed unacceptable, and Dechellis should be held accountable.  Are the expectations of this program so low that it would takes an unperfect season (0-18) for most to call for the coaches ouster?  If so, that is scary.  I expect better.  Maybe I'm in the minority?

Trust me on this one-if PSU wins 2 games, especially their last 2 games, the low excpectation fans will say-"This team has started to come together and I can't wait until next year". Curley will be doing cartwheels in his office and considering an extension for "RECRUITING" purposes only.

It is really so hard for you to understand why you would extend a coach's contract for recruiting purposes?   People who criticize that extension are only demonstrating their ignorance of the ways of the recruiting wars.

[manatree]

McNamara spurns PSU for Syracuse
Scranton high school standout point guard cites Dunn's unstable contract situation as his reason.

By Adam Gorney
Collegian Staff Writer

"I felt that I belong at Syracuse, and Jerry Dunn didn't get his contract renewed, that was the deciding factor on Penn State," McNamara told The Times Leader in Wilkes-Barre. "We just felt that after the year he had, he deserved it. There's no doubt about it. The whole family feels that way."

[hoopla]

It cracks to me up when people on here say that ED should be gone if he finishes 0-18.  To me there is no diffence between 0-18, 1-17,2-16, 3-16, 4-14...All should be be deemed unacceptable, and Dechellis should be held accountable.  Are the expectations of this program so low that it would takes an unperfect season (0-18) for most to call for the coaches ouster?  If so, that is scary.  I expect better.  Maybe I'm in the minority?

Trust me on this one-if PSU wins 2 games, especially their last 2 games, the low excpectation fans will say-"This team has started to come together and I can't wait until next year". Curley will be doing cartwheels in his office and considering an extension for "RECRUITING" purposes only.

It is really so hard for you to understand why you would extend a coach's contract for recruiting purposes?   People who criticize that extension are only demonstrating their ignorance of the ways of the recruiting wars.

Any coach who would accept an extension without an increase in the buyout isn't too savvy. My concern is that the buyout also increased giving Curley more financial reasons to justify keeping Ed. I understand the recruiting purposes of an extension, but thanks for trying to be a mentor to me. Thanks for using the term "ignorance" which of course is totally unnecessary. You probably would be the first to criticize others for using the forum to be so damn uppity.

[UncleLar]

It cracks to me up when people on here say that ED should be gone if he finishes 0-18.  To me there is no diffence between 0-18, 1-17,2-16, 3-16, 4-14...All should be be deemed unacceptable, and Dechellis should be held accountable.  Are the expectations of this program so low that it would takes an unperfect season (0-18) for most to call for the coaches ouster?  If so, that is scary.  I expect better.  Maybe I'm in the minority?

Trust me on this one-if PSU wins 2 games, especially their last 2 games, the low excpectation fans will say-"This team has started to come together and I can't wait until next year". Curley will be doing cartwheels in his office and considering an extension for "RECRUITING" purposes only.

It is really so hard for you to understand why you would extend a coach's contract for recruiting purposes?   People who criticize that extension are only demonstrating their ignorance of the ways of the recruiting wars.

Any coach who would accept an extension without an increase in the buyout isn't too savvy. My concern is that the buyout also increased giving Curley more financial reasons to justify keeping Ed. I understand the recruiting purposes of an extension, but thanks for trying to be a mentor to me. Thanks for using the term "ignorance" which of course is totally unnecessary. You probably would be the first to criticize others for using the forum to be so damn uppity.

What's the coach's alternative?  Turn down the extension and handicap his recruiting?  Take his contract concerns to the media?    I don't think so.  The AD has the power, not the coach. 

Curley could have easily come to DeChellis and said "I understand that your contract needs to be renewed for recruiting but I'm also concerned that they program hasn't advanced as far and as fast as I would like.  I suggest we meet halfway.  I'll renew the contract for two years but you have to accept a reduced buyout." 

Done deal - DeChellis would have little choice but to agree.

[psu_DC]

It cracks to me up when people on here say that ED should be gone if he finishes 0-18.  To me there is no diffence between 0-18, 1-17,2-16, 3-16, 4-14...All should be be deemed unacceptable, and Dechellis should be held accountable.  Are the expectations of this program so low that it would takes an unperfect season (0-18) for most to call for the coaches ouster?  If so, that is scary.  I expect better.  Maybe I'm in the minority?

Trust me on this one-if PSU wins 2 games, especially their last 2 games, the low excpectation fans will say-"This team has started to come together and I can't wait until next year". Curley will be doing cartwheels in his office and considering an extension for "RECRUITING" purposes only.

It is really so hard for you to understand why you would extend a coach's contract for recruiting purposes?   People who criticize that extension are only demonstrating their ignorance of the ways of the recruiting wars.

Any coach who would accept an extension without an increase in the buyout isn't too savvy. My concern is that the buyout also increased giving Curley more financial reasons to justify keeping Ed. I understand the recruiting purposes of an extension, but thanks for trying to be a mentor to me. Thanks for using the term "ignorance" which of course is totally unnecessary. You probably would be the first to criticize others for using the forum to be so damn uppity.

What's the coach's alternative?  Turn down the extension and handicap his recruiting?  Take his contract concerns to the media?    I don't think so.  The AD has the power, not the coach. 

Curley could have easily come to DeChellis and said "I understand that your contract needs to be renewed for recruiting but I'm also concerned that they program hasn't advanced as far and as fast as I would like.  I suggest we meet halfway.  I'll renew the contract for two years but you have to accept a reduced buyout." 

Done deal - DeChellis would have little choice but to agree.

UncleLar is exactly right.  If the coach has done little, he doesn't have any leverage in asking for a large buyout.  Ed was kind of in that situation, the only accomplishment is the NIT win, and no NCAA. So I'd imagine he didn't get a gigantic buyout written into that extension.

[hoopla]

I hope you are correct about the buyout. I guess I don't think Curley is smart enough to limit the buyout. If he limited the buyout, it would all make sense.

[tundra]

I hope you are correct about the buyout. I guess I don't think Curley is smart enough to limit the buyout. If he limited the buyout, it would all make sense.

I hope posts about the buyout are based on some "insider  " information and not just speculation. Many have learned to "fear the worst" when it comes to Curley's handling of men's basketball. Whether he is "smart enough" or not.............  PSU men's hoops have been a mess since we joined the BJC.  
I'm just hoping enough "money pressure" will be put on the President and Board of Trustees to take any decision making about Ed's dismissal out of Curley's hands.  
  

[battlesway2]

It cracks to me up when people on here say that ED should be gone if he finishes 0-18.  To me there is no diffence between 0-18, 1-17,2-16, 3-16, 4-14...All should be be deemed unacceptable, and Dechellis should be held accountable.  Are the expectations of this program so low that it would takes an unperfect season (0-18) for most to call for the coaches ouster?  If so, that is scary.  I expect better.  Maybe I'm in the minority?

Trust me on this one-if PSU wins 2 games, especially their last 2 games, the low excpectation fans will say-"This team has started to come together and I can't wait until next year". Curley will be doing cartwheels in his office and considering an extension for "RECRUITING" purposes only.

1 win over the Kitties and maybe one in the tournament and Ed will def be back next year. Curley is crossing his fingers for the big W.

[psu_DC]

I hope you are correct about the buyout. I guess I don't think Curley is smart enough to limit the buyout. If he limited the buyout, it would all make sense.

You're not giving Curley very much credit... then again, why should you when it comes to men's basketball?  I hope that Spanier largely takes the decision out of Curley's hands if there is a change in the next 2 years, and insists on a search firm selecting the candidates.  I don't know if he is a good AD or not (I assume he is due to success in other sports), but he seems to have a knack for leading the men's basketball program down dead end roads.  7 years ago, I don't think anybody except for Curley felt like DeChellis was the best applicant for this job (except maybe Cappy)