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[PSUBaller]

These young guys are going to be a blast.  The attitude of the team has totally changed in such a short time and it's great to see such confidence.

Like night and day

[kidcoyote]

Not Frazier, right on Battle, unless you think I "hyped" him.

I'm confused, Kid.

Do you think that you didn't hype Battle? 

Look up the definition of hyperbole, and you tell me. I'll save you the time. Dictionary.com defines it as "an obvious and intentional exaggeration." Okay, two dunks per game was a stretch, but it wasn't an intentional exaggeration.   On everything else, I think he's exceeded even my expectations. Not on overall numbers, I knew that, but on the specific heroics? What he did at Lansing? Vs. IL? GMU? Come on, hype? I'd say understated. Even his frosh year. Remember the Seton Hall game? 11 straight second half points. He took over the game, playing vs. Eugene Harvey, ranked 67th overall in '06 class. Same in Lansing, vs. you know who. He embarassed them, laughing while doing it. When was the last time PSU won in Lansing? Hype? Hardly.

I think his leading by example will raise the game of the newbies this year. Not that they can't play, but it's easy to get nervous, which can hurt your play. He'll help with that. And his brother has some of that magic too, so it should be a fun few years.

[UncleLar]

Not Frazier, right on Battle, unless you think I "hyped" him.

I'm confused, Kid.

Do you think that you didn't hype Battle? 

Look up the definition of hyperbole, and you tell me. I'll save you the time. Dictionary.com defines it as "an obvious and intentional exaggeration." Okay, two dunks per game was a stretch, but it wasn't an intentional exaggeration.   On everything else, I think he's exceeded even my expectations. Not on overall numbers, I knew that, but on the specific heroics? What he did at Lansing? Vs. IL? GMU? Come on, hype? I'd say understated. Even his frosh year. Remember the Seton Hall game? 11 straight second half points. He took over the game, playing vs. Eugene Harvey, ranked 67th overall in '06 class. Same in Lansing, vs. you know who. He embarassed them, laughing while doing it. When was the last time PSU won in Lansing? Hype? Hardly.

I think his leading by example will raise the game of the newbies this year. Not that they can't play, but it's easy to get nervous, which can hurt your play. He'll help with that. And his brother has some of that magic too, so it should be a fun few years.

What's the old expression?    "It's not bragging if you can really do it" - Babe Ruth. 

Just because Talor lived up to your hype, doesn't mean it wasn't hype.   What was exaggerated was your incessant boasting about him, not his actual skills. 

[tjb]

I'm jumping in for the kid. Except for the dunks, I think he pretty much nailed TB.

The man crush is the thing, not the basic claims. And I'm with him on that. I love Kanaskie's line somewhere: What changed here? Talor Battle arrived.

 

[bstanf]

Look up the definition of hyperbole, and you tell me. I'll save you the time. Dictionary.com defines it as "an obvious and intentional exaggeration."

Hype and Hyperbole are two different words, although they may share the same latin prefix hyper-. Since you like dictionary.com, I'll use their definition. We might as well start with the verb form:

1.   to stimulate, excite, or agitate
2.   to create interest in by flamboyant or dramatic methods; promote or publicize showily

Or, we could take a look at the noun form:

1. Excessive publicity and the ensuing commotion

If those don't describe your comments about Battle before he ever set foot on a court in a PSU uniform, I don't know what does.

The fact that he's turned out to be everything you promised and possibly more (without the dunking   ) doesn't mean that you weren't the King of Battle hype.

To argue otherwise is some serious revisionist history.

[kidcoyote]

Look up the definition of hyperbole, and you tell me. I'll save you the time. Dictionary.com defines it as "an obvious and intentional exaggeration."

Hype and Hyperbole are two different words, although they may share the same latin prefix hyper-. Since you like dictionary.com, I'll use their definition. We might as well start with the verb form:

1.   to stimulate, excite, or agitate
2.   to create interest in by flamboyant or dramatic methods; promote or publicize showily

Or, we could take a look at the noun form:

1. Excessive publicity and the ensuing commotion

If those don't describe your comments about Battle before he ever set foot on a court in a PSU uniform, I don't know what does.

The fact that he's turned out to be everything you promised and possibly more (without the dunking   ) doesn't mean that you weren't the King of Battle hype.

To argue otherwise is some serious revisionist history.

bstanf, not sure where you're getting your info, but here is the dictionary.com definition of hype as a noun. I just copied and pasted the whole noun section below. on 5. I didn't exaggerate;  6. it wasn't questionable; 7. it was no trick

So, not sure what you did on that site. Did you edit it? Tsk, tsk. You've been busted.

–noun
5.    exaggerated publicity; hoopla.
6.    an ingenious or questionable claim, method, etc., used in advertising, promotion, or publicity to intensify the effect.
7.    a swindle, deception, or trick.

And if you continue reading, you may have seen this. So, I disagree that they are two different words. Hype is just a shortening. American slang, done all the time. Americans have no patience for 4 syllable words.

 Origin:
1925–30, Americanism; in sense “to trick, swindle,” of uncert. orig.; subsequent senses perh. by reanalysis as a shortening of hyperbole

Lar, splitting hairs, but you have a point. Not worth arguing. But it's not hype, it's as Tim says. Guilty as charged.

Tim, I love you man. Guilty of man crush, too? Lots of people are, IMO. eric, are you reading this?

When's the 1st game? 

[NGameday]

Of all the arguments I thought I'd see on here...


Exibition game is the day before the OSU game...Rally in the Valley at the BJC right after the game. Nice planning on the athletic departments part

[bstanf]

bstanf, not sure where you're getting your info, but here is the dictionary.com definition of hype as a noun. I just copied and pasted the whole noun section below. on 5. I didn't exaggerate;  6. it wasn't questionable; 7. it was no trick

So, not sure what you did on that site. Did you edit it? Tsk, tsk. You've been busted.

Not going to argue about this with you past this point, because I know it's pointless, so here are my last words on the subject:

You should probably learn how to use a dictionary before you start arguments about one.

First of all, the sections I quoted are on the dictionary.com page for hype. I don't particularly like dictionary.com as a source, but since you cited it first I figured I'd stick with it.

Second of all, most dictionary entries list the most common definition of a word first, and then alternate definitions based on declining commonality of the definition. Using the 5th, 6th, and 7th definitions to support your point, when I pulled out the 1st and 2nd definitions just makes you look foolish.

Third, the etymology you cite clearly states the word hype has uncertain origins that at some time in the past perhaps related to hyperbole. And since the two words HAVE DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS in the dictionary you chose to cite, that's pretty much a slam dunk (pun intended) case that they don't mean the same thing, no matter what their etymology is.

Everyone on this board knows you hyped Talor Battle incessantly since your first post here, at times getting into the most inane and hilarious of arguments with people who didn't worship at his basketball altar in the same creepy way you do. Your failure to acknowledge your prior words and actions is curious, but it doesn't change simple fact that virtually everything you've ever posted to this forum has been Talor Battle hype.

[tjb]

Everyone on this board knows you hyped Talor Battle incessantly since your first post here, at times getting into the most inane and hilarious of arguments with people who didn't worship at his basketball altar in the same creepy way you do. Your failure to acknowledge your prior words and actions is curious, but it doesn't change simple fact that virtually everything you've ever posted to this forum has been Talor Battle hype.

So, what does this count as, dictionary-wise? 

[bstanf]

So, what does this count as, dictionary-wise? 

I looked it up and it's apparently technically an old fashioned Internet Flame War (Pre-Godwin).

Oddly, the example sentence at dictionarymya**.com was "I hope you donned your fireproof suit before reading PennStateHoops.com, they've got an old fashioned Internet Flame War raging over there."

 

[mjg]

The only issue I've ever had with kid is how many times he repeats the same info. And one poor judgement comment he made about Babb. Othwise I think he brings good info and good discussion points. And it's not just Talor, he hypes Taran too. But I love his enthusiasm. And what PSU hoops fan doesn't have a man crush?

[manatree]

Kid, when you continually use arguments that are based on Talor once outplayed player A who once outplayed player B who once outplayed player C who once outplayed player D, therefore Talor is better than player D, or since talor outplayed player X in their two head to head games it proves that Talor is a better NBA prospect, or saying that Buie was going to graduate a year early, etc. that's when you've crossed teh line from fan hype into the realm of Don King. when Talor graduates, he should hire you as his agent.

Keep in mind, I and 99.637% of the posters here really, really, really like Talor and are really, really, really, really glad he's here.

However, whenever anyone even remotely criticizes anything that Talor does in any one particular game, you go to defcon 5.

[tundra]

Maybe I should not jump in.....but, what the heck. I think a few posters are somewhat out of line in PUBLICALLY roasting Kid. No poster should be scrutinized as such. I know some of MY posts are pigheaded rants but I don't want everybody generalizing about me.   
This is the BEST PSU message board........any sport. Has been for years. How long can it maintain, I don't know.
Kid, is one of OUR best posters. He is NOT William or Rokk. He doesn't insult student athletes. None our OUR posters deserve the scrutiny of this roast. The logic of many other posters baffle me. A couple of posters "drive me crazy." But I should not "name names." Different opinions is what a message board needs. Vive La Difference!

[LPcreation]

He doesn't insult student athletes. None our OUR posters deserve the scrutiny of this roast.

A few things...

1 - I like Kid and his posts.  I don't always agree, but he brings a good perspective and says what he feels.  I like it.

2 - He has insulted a lot of our players.  It's gotten A LOT better but he used to put guys down to put Talor up. 

3 - I don't think he's really getting roasted.  I think part of it is that he seems like a guy that can laugh at it a little bit.  It would be sort of like hanging out with Lou Holtz and calling him out on his ND hype.  He'd deny and maybe even believe he didn't hype ND and people would take good natured jabs at him about it.  IMO, (and I thate this expression), it's just "guy talk".

[LPcreation]

Anyone see anything weird about this pic.....

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs275.snc1/10229_184138625831_86969485831





ugh...I can't get it to post.