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Penn State Basketball / Re: Tracking the Commitments
« on: March 2, 2015, 04:13 PM »
I'm reluctant to criticize talent evaluation and risk in hindsight.

Also, I am completely with you here 99.9% of the time. But this one is personal to a lot of the 717 people on this board because the 717 community didn't particularly care where he ranked. We all thought he could play at this level. Clearly Pat did too or they wouldn't have recruited him. But he's not here and ultimately that's Pat's fault. Not Devin's.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Tracking the Commitments
« on: March 2, 2015, 04:04 PM »
You guys are misremembering. This BT or DT decision was well before carefrontations. Alexis was the first, and it was in the middle of the first season during the Big Ten. This was to allow the staff to openly and aggressively pursue Sheldon Jeter during the season.

But the staff would have caused a mutiny and would likely have lost all integrity with DeChellis' holdovers if they "oversigned" before their first game. He spent all June reassuring players and families during his world tour that their scholarships were gonna be honored. His word would have meant nothing to these people if he oversigned two months later.

There's valid reasons for why it transpired the way it did. Just like with this basketball season and being 3-13. That said, while I am obviously patient with Pat, those still have to be counted as strikes against him.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: March 1, 2015, 01:09 AM »
So we do seem to still be very much involved in Traci Carter's recruitment...sounds like we'll be getting an unofficial visit here soon. But he doesn't have much time for the world tour he's planning if he's really trying to visit close to 10 schools before the end of the spring signing period.

http://delgrecowilson.com/2015/02/18/a-tough-philly-guard-the-recruitment-of-traci-carter/


This guy says Traci is visiting Wednesday for Ohio State and Newbill senior night. But he will be visiting Marquette on March 7th. If we could somehow pull a commitment out of our butts before that visit, we win. But Traci clearly seems set on taking all his visits and Marquette already with Wojo is cleaning up. Being a part of a top 5 class is hard to turn down. They're by far his best offer of the schools in the running IMO. Maybe DJ can give him a reason to forget about the school that screwed him over on Wednesday.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: vs Iowa IGT
« on: March 1, 2015, 12:31 AM »
Pretty sure Pat wouldn't accept the CBI invite this year, although I can see them leaving the decision solely to DJ and the seniors. And since they didn't heed the coaches "take a break" demand after last week's debacle, they do look like they still want to play. If the kids wanna play, I guess we may be in there, as detrimental it will be to all the average fans. I just can't fathom a postseason invite at 3-15, even if it's the same overall record as last year. But the CBI practically begs for major conference money so who knows.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: vs Iowa IGT
« on: February 28, 2015, 09:02 PM »
Is simply catching the ball iin the post a lack of coaching fundamentals or a lack of talent? Don't mean to hate on Dickerson either, because he actually overperformed for his standards. He had a great game, although he couldn't come up with 2 big free throws.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Big Ten hoops news
« on: February 28, 2015, 01:45 PM »
So Abdur-Rakhman is showing he's a much bigger talent than I originally thought. Chalk one up against me.

And in fairness to the prior regime, he's the kind of guy that DeChellis probably would've landed with ease.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Tracking the Commitments
« on: February 28, 2015, 01:41 PM »
Not only that, only his second year in the US period.  And he came here not knowing English.

Here's how I look at Davis (and Isaiah W.). He was offered after in-person evaluations by both Anderson and Chambers himself. That means this staff believes he can play at the level he needs to. They used a valuable scholarship that is always of great benefit during July/August on him. Especially for this staff, who is fearless on the recruiting trail and are constantly seen going after the most coveted "high risers" in July (for example - Samir Sehic and Kerry Blackshear this cycle, even if we didn't come close to getting them).

This is completely unlike DeChellis, who took these kind of reaches regularly in the spring, after already striking out on top targets in the fall. There are 28 uncommitted prospects in 247's top-200 in 2015. I'm not sure if the committed guys all signed in the early period or not, but I'd guarantee at least 90% of them did (because anyone who follows recruiting knows this is the trend in college basketball every year). Of these 28, 10 are out of our league in the Top-50 (in fact, 9 of them are in the "future NBA lottery" pick range of the top-15. Because those guys control the market and can pick wherever they wanna go at the last second. ALL schools would make room for them, even us). So for us to get a recruit like Davis in the spring, with his lack of exposure and unimpressive numbers, that's very troubling because the pickings are notably slim at that point in the calendar. I would agree there.

But Davis was hand-picked by Pat after Dwayne found him at the bottom of the WCAC. And frankly, Pat's current track record deserves some respect considering he's only ever really whiffed on one guy in his prep recruiting - Akosa. All other guys have contributed in some capacity this year or last - which is another change from the DeChellis/Dunn era. We had 11 scholarship guys play meaningful minutes and make meaningful contributions at some point this year out of our 12 recruited ones (Isaiah's redshirting).

Davis isn't coming here to be a 35+ MPG starter that can drop 4 or 5 threes a game. The starting nucleus is Thorpe/Garner/Watkins/Reaves/Hampton. TJB throws Julian in that group, but I need to see more . However, there's tremendous value in having a bench, isn't there? The problem with this year's team is there's too many bench players and not enough talent to start/score consistently. Brandon Taylor/Donovon Jack have shown enough to me and some of their numbers back it up that they can get some minutes for a winner at this level. But it has to be the right role. It's a shame they're only going to get one year with Mike Watkins, when he's a frosh.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: February 28, 2015, 10:57 AM »
Stevens, Carr, and Bostick will all be in attendance tonight for the game per Corey Evans. That's bigtime.

#DoWorkPat

That's incredible. (referring more to the timing of this news in lieu of the podcast we just did with Tim and the points we are making with regard to recruiting)

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: February 27, 2015, 03:21 PM »
http://mobile.philly.com/sports/high_school/?wss=/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/&id=294228261

Stevens and Carr. Two huge targets for the next 9 months to watch.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: February 27, 2015, 12:53 PM »
First time in a long time we've apparently been asleep at the wheel on a fast-rising guard in the 2016 class in DC. To connect the dots, last year this kid was playing JV while Joe Hampton and Alani Moore were starting at DeMatha. They transferred out and now this kid has blossomed into a Top 100 guy. Kinda surprised we weren't mentioned in the article but we haven't targeted that AAU affiliation either. May not be an option for us now but one to watch!

http://mobile.sportingnews.com/article/4636983-markelle-fultz-ohio-state-kansas-north-carolina-state-kentucky-creighton-texas-wake-forest-maryland?modid=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2F6Jkk8VGC4p

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Tracking the Commitments
« on: February 27, 2015, 12:02 AM »
http://youtu.be/9hGlWCGqNOo


He seems to be really coming along offensively. Granted many of his buckets in here are uncontested layups, but the explosiveness and skill on some of those low-post moves.....

Against future D1 competition, too.

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http://pennstate.247sports.com/Bolt/Chambers-talks-upgrades-to-hoops-program-35883308


He had to freakin wait 4 years just for this opportunity. I'm sure his wishlist is 10+ pages.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: February 26, 2015, 06:58 PM »
So we do seem to still be very much involved in Traci Carter's recruitment...sounds like we'll be getting an unofficial visit here soon. But he doesn't have much time for the world tour he's planning if he's really trying to visit close to 10 schools before the end of the spring signing period.

http://delgrecowilson.com/2015/02/18/a-tough-philly-guard-the-recruitment-of-traci-carter/


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Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: February 25, 2015, 02:41 PM »
Text/chat/forum talk interpretation: I think Eric is asking Tom not to presume that a HS coach would tell his player before telling the media....

Could be wrong.

Sorry for the lack of clarity. This is correct. They're called "handlers" in the business. Those "handlers" very rarely include the actual high school coach, by the way.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: February 25, 2015, 12:49 PM »
I'd like to think the coach would tell the kid before he tells local beat writers.

Don't. That's not how it is, whether right or wrong.

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Penn State Basketball / Shaka Smart Radio Show Comments
« on: February 25, 2015, 02:19 AM »
Must Read.

Quote from: Shaka Smart, VCU Head Coach
ďWe talk to our guys all the time about the difference between interest and commitment. When youíre interested in something, you do it when itís convenient. When youíre committed to something, you do it all the time, even when you lost that feeling that you originally had when you you made the original commitment.

But the problem with todayís society, and especially in our basketball culture, is kids grow up learning to be conditionally bought in. In other words, Ďif things are going well for me then I will listen and I will follow the plan and I will do what you ask me to do coach. If things are going well for me then Iím going to have a good attitude; Iím going to be coachable. But if theyíre not, Iím going to get off the page and Iím going to do what I want. Itís okay for me to violate team rules; itís okay for me to not be coachable; itís okay for me to take a bad attitude; itís okay for me not to be a good teammate.í

And the reality is that itís a disease that impacts the vast majority of teams. What most fans donít realize is this is the number one thing that we fight as coaches every day. Itís a daily battle. People think itís about pick and roll and dunking the ball and making jumpers. If our guys have a clear head for being committed to what goes into winning, then weíre going to win most of the time, unless we play a team thatís just that much better than us.

But when you see us struggle itís not because we didnít work on free throw shooting or work on our three point shot. Itís because maybe a guy got off the page, or maybe a couple guys did, and I try to tell our staff all the time itís not about the scouting report. Itís not about how weíre going to guard pick and roll. Itís about Ďdoes this guy have a clear mind?í If he has a clear mind like Mike Gilmore did last game, then he can score 10 points in 14 minutes. If he doesnít have a clear mind then he shoots the ball off the side of the backboard. Itsí the same guy.Ē

And since this topic has been hit here recently:

Quote from: Shaka Smart, VCU Head Coach
ďSocial media is a bear. Iíll use Mel as an example, too. We hit a stretch in the season where Mel was very upset with the media, with certain fans. Unfortunately this guy reads message boards sometimes. And people are being critical of Melvin because heís missing shots. Melís like, Ďwell Iím not missing on purpose.í Mel donít be so sensitive. Clear that stuff out of your mind. Focus on the next thing we need to do. But again, Melvin Johnson is a young man. He has feelings.

Kornheiser said itÖitís a really, really good point that he made. A lot of us are really, really good at staying focused when people say good things about usÖbut as soon as someone says one negative critical thing we flip out. We canít handle it. Especially at that age, thatís a challenge. As coaches thats a big part of what we need to be doing.Ē

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Penn State Basketball / Re: The Long View
« on: February 24, 2015, 02:38 PM »
I'll just leave this here for reference. My numbers only go back to 99-2000 season, but this was a graphic that was to be used for a BSD piece that never was (but still could be in the coming weeks) during the 0-6 start. I updated this year's total to show where we are.


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Penn State Basketball / Re: The Long View
« on: February 24, 2015, 02:16 PM »
Finally some DT discussion. Pat's biggest failure so far in my eyes. Jermaine Marshall's transfer is a close 2nd.

Devin wanted to commit, called to the coaching staff to commit and was denied because Taylor had pledged right before him. He was told there weren't any available scholarships and they wouldn't be able to accept his commitment. Whether that happened the same day or the day before or even two days before, I don't remember exactly.

But the three events/circumstances responsible for Devin Thomas not being at Penn State were:
1 - A verbal commitment from Akosa Maduegbunam
2 - A verbal commitment from Brandon Taylor
3 - Not willing to "oversign" (because this was well before carefrontations on the calendar).

You can make cases justifying all three of those decisions by Chambers. But in total, it just doesn't make up for the fact they refused the commitment of a 6'9" rebounding machine in their own backyard.

Pat's been paying for it ever since.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Keyser SŲze
« on: February 24, 2015, 01:56 PM »
he proceeded to spend about the next 15 minutes berating me for

I can get pretty wound up about the Sandusky thing, which I regard as somewhat important (even if my opinions about it are off base), but I can't for the life of me figure out what drives the intensity of people like your friend in the bar, and CE and even Rokk. It really is like their own self-esteem is associated with the performance of our favorite teams.

Someone on BSD today literally said he can't wait for me to be proven wrong about Pat.

As for Lar's story, that's a damn shame. I've met Rokk and Kidcoyote among many others on here. Rokk's as wild as you'd imagine, but he wasn't downright rude or obnoxious. Then again at the time I met him, I was on the same side of the fire/retain the coach argument with him, so perhaps that made the experience more bearable.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Tim Frazier PSU NBA Record Book Watch
« on: February 23, 2015, 07:23 PM »
Love that you guys have these numbers readily available.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Keyser SŲze
« on: February 23, 2015, 06:40 PM »
I'm slowly emerging from the bomb shelter after Saturday afternoon and what the hell?

FWIW, Rokk had at least 3 or 4 accounts registered with SBNation when we finally had to cut the cord there. And of course, the 3-4 accounts he used all had matching gmail addresses to his absurd usernames.

Oh you guys banned him? I thought he was on vacation?

Well in fairness to him, Facebook shows he really is on vacation right now.

He was given a week break after taking the vulgarity up a notch after one of the losses. He responded to the ban by ignoring it and continuing to post under a bunch of different monikers that he already had created for whatever reason. So that was that.


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Penn State Basketball / Re: Keyser SŲze
« on: February 23, 2015, 05:49 PM »
I'm slowly emerging from the bomb shelter after Saturday afternoon and what the hell?

FWIW, Rokk had at least 3 or 4 accounts registered with SBNation when we finally had to cut the cord there. And of course, the 3-4 accounts he used all had matching gmail addresses to his absurd usernames.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: February 19, 2015, 01:47 PM »
Anyone take in the Catholic League semis last night at the Palestra?

I would love to think we have a shot at Quade Green in 2017 but we haven't had success at Neumann-Goretti yet. The sophomore has been arguably the best player in the league - 26 points on 10-13 shooting last night in a hard fought 70-65 win over La Salle.

Arguably our top 2016 target - Tony Carr - had a huge game for Roman in a big win over Archbishop Carroll (with Daly's son, Derrick Jones, etc.). CoBL story.

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Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: February 18, 2015, 01:15 PM »
Look for a C and a PG to round out Hampton's class. The fourth scholarship may not exist in a few months. Gotta see what opportunities arise after the season in the transfer/decommitment market first.

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