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Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: Today at 06:45 PM »
Josh Verlin ‏@jmverlin  16m16 minutes ago
Hershey (Pa.)/Team Final 2015 PF Dylan Painter tells me he's been offered by Penn State.

He's 2016 though, not 2015

Guess the staff feels he's capable already. I'd be shocked if PSU doesn't close this one sooner than later.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Big Ten hoops news
« on: Today at 12:30 PM »
The shine really came of Tim Miles eh?

Don't trick yourself. It's still pretty safe to assume they'll be better next season.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: Yesterday at 11:26 AM »
2016 DC G Markelle Fultz just got offer by Kansas per twitter, so....yeah.

As for Doughty, he's a scoring guard. Not a true point guard. I don't know why the staff would be seriously interested in that with just one scholarship left, but stranger things have happened.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: March 29, 2015, 12:07 PM »
Eric, is Doughty a possible spring flip for us now that Lavin was canned?

Do you think this level of recruit at that position would be a serious consideration right now for Penn State? I don't see what need he fills.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Coaching Change Thread
« on: March 25, 2015, 09:26 AM »
I'd think Hurley would wait out a bit better job than DePaul

I just wanna know why Bob over Danny?

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: March 18, 2015, 01:19 PM »
2016 big man Dylan Painter is playing for Team Final in the spring/summer. I can't confirm if this is true, but I think it's safe to assume Penn State's staff is responsible for linking the Hershey prospect and the Philadelphia AAU program. Painter's recruitment has reached at least the A-10 level with a recent offer from George Washington. If he continues to progress and blossoms into a high major guy with Team Final over the summer and earns an offer from the staff, PSU will be the favorite to land his services. He's been up for multiple games this past season, IIRC.

Penn State offered the Hardnett kid immediately after Traci Carter committed. That suggests to me that Chambers is in the market for a point guard with that last 2015 scholarship, IMO. Hardnett would be a great land as Chambers is not afraid to go toe-to-toe with everyone else in the market for a PG right now. The pickings are slim and Hardnett seems to be the "next man up" after Carter committed as the next best available PG prospect. It would be wise for us to keep a close eye on PG decommitments, transfers or emerging JuCo prospects over the next month as the market replenishes.

Not surprised at the recent Markelle Fultz offer (I think I linked an earlier article this year that detailed his rise to prominence this past high school season). Still surprised PSU was this late to the party. All that matters is earning a potential commitment though, so we'll see what happens there. There's gonna be tons of steep competition for him over the summer.

2016 C Sedee Keita is from SW Philadelphia, but goes to school in South Carolina. He could be the Top-100 big man PSU desperately needs in this class. He's got the kind of profile Syracuse has relied on in Philly with guys like Dion Waiters/Rakeem Christmas/etc. With their sanctions, this can only help PSU's chances here. He runs with Terrell Myers' (former St. Joe's player) WE-R-1 AAU program that this staff has had some connections with Julian and Isaiah.

Not that this needs to be pointed out, but surely the staff will have a presence at the Giant Center this weekend. Curious to see if it's just Pat or Pat and company. If it's Pat and company, they really are going to be aggressive all summer for Carr/Stevens. I'd expect a member of this staff present at all Team Final events in April/July.

Penn State Basketball / Re: NCAA tourney
« on: March 18, 2015, 10:48 AM »
Trending up: SEC
Trending down: Big 10

This analysis based on approximately four minutes, top, of the Ole Miss-BYU and Alabama-Illinois games.

The 2015 recruiting class rankings show the same trend.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: March 16, 2015, 03:15 PM »

76 percent of the way there....

Finally got a chance to contribute this year.

Penn State Basketball / Re: NIT Bubble?
« on: March 13, 2015, 10:33 AM »
Bleacher Report says yes to Illinois and Minnesota, no to Penn State

In typical BR fashion, they gave Tulsa two bids there. I find John Templon to be the most reliable source at NYC buckets. Especially when he noted how NIT-licious our profile was after the non-con back in December when I wrote that RPI piece. Here's his update today. Need Michigan and Florida to lose and obviously a PSU win today.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Hampton decommits...
« on: March 12, 2015, 11:42 PM »
Thanks for the fact-check. Incredible how firmly-held beliefs don't match reality in so many instances, in all areas (not just hoops, or Penn State hoops).

Your beliefs are valid. From sports-reference for Jordan's last two conference seasons.

Win Shares0.20.8

Penn State Basketball / Re: Hampton decommits...
« on: March 11, 2015, 08:12 PM »
It is way too early in the 2016 recruiting calendar to suggest this situation is "eerily similar" to the infamous European recruiting trip. We are talking about a coaching staff that landed 4 players in one month back in June 2013 and 7 players in the first 10 months on the job (although yes, Austin did not stick). They have never "scrambled" to fill scholarships in 4 years.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Big Ten hoops news
« on: March 11, 2015, 02:41 PM »
Garner better as a true frosh than Battle?

"One of". Garner/Battle freshman stats are quite similar to be honest, but Geary and Jamelle had the better frosh seasons. Other than them, y'all are gonna have to help me out with anyone else who can even be in the conversation.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Big Ten hoops news
« on: March 11, 2015, 01:48 PM »
My man Phil Mitten with a really nice overview today of the talent in the Big Ten and recruiting.

Puts it in perspective the talent problem we have when one of our best true freshman ever isn't even in the top-10 of frosh in the league this year, in a freshman recruiting class that is underwhelming by B1G standards. Yes, even with Russell/Trimble/Blackmon.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Hampton decommits...
« on: March 11, 2015, 12:48 PM »
This is all too eerily similar to the situation where DeChellis ended up taking a bunch of Euro kids to fill out a recruiting class.

Instead of Euros, I have a feeling that we will see a few JuCo kids in this class.

This is bull, it's not close to comparable to Ed yet. The parallels to Trey Burke and Joe Hampton are there obviously, but it's not like we were in with a bunch of top recruits at that time either, like the current staff is with Stevens, Carr, De'Andre Hunter, etc. Hopefully with Syracuse's sanctions, they can make a serious push at Sedee Keita, too. He's the kind of kid Syracuse has lived off of recently and would be an incredible complement to Mike Watkins down low. Pat signs him (or another big of that caliber), he can go 3-15 next year for all I care.

Ed took those European kids in the spring, like so many of his regular recruits. In fact, over HALF of Ed's signed recruits in his tenure were signed in the spring. That's not good. In fact, it's quite alarming. That should only happen during years of mass turnover whether from a coaching change or numerous transfers like Maryland had last year.

Cannot believe people are panicking already and we don't even know the potential fallout from this season with our current players.  ::)

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: March 10, 2015, 07:58 AM »
Highly doubt he actually made it to the OSU game. Not a crystalball guy, but if I was, Traci would be my first pick. He's going to Marquette.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Tracking the Commitments
« on: March 2, 2015, 04:13 PM »
I'm reluctant to criticize talent evaluation and risk in hindsight.

Also, I am completely with you here 99.9% of the time. But this one is personal to a lot of the 717 people on this board because the 717 community didn't particularly care where he ranked. We all thought he could play at this level. Clearly Pat did too or they wouldn't have recruited him. But he's not here and ultimately that's Pat's fault. Not Devin's.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Tracking the Commitments
« on: March 2, 2015, 04:04 PM »
You guys are misremembering. This BT or DT decision was well before carefrontations. Alexis was the first, and it was in the middle of the first season during the Big Ten. This was to allow the staff to openly and aggressively pursue Sheldon Jeter during the season.

But the staff would have caused a mutiny and would likely have lost all integrity with DeChellis' holdovers if they "oversigned" before their first game. He spent all June reassuring players and families during his world tour that their scholarships were gonna be honored. His word would have meant nothing to these people if he oversigned two months later.

There's valid reasons for why it transpired the way it did. Just like with this basketball season and being 3-13. That said, while I am obviously patient with Pat, those still have to be counted as strikes against him.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: March 1, 2015, 01:09 AM »
So we do seem to still be very much involved in Traci Carter's recruitment...sounds like we'll be getting an unofficial visit here soon. But he doesn't have much time for the world tour he's planning if he's really trying to visit close to 10 schools before the end of the spring signing period.

This guy says Traci is visiting Wednesday for Ohio State and Newbill senior night. But he will be visiting Marquette on March 7th. If we could somehow pull a commitment out of our butts before that visit, we win. But Traci clearly seems set on taking all his visits and Marquette already with Wojo is cleaning up. Being a part of a top 5 class is hard to turn down. They're by far his best offer of the schools in the running IMO. Maybe DJ can give him a reason to forget about the school that screwed him over on Wednesday.

Penn State Basketball / Re: vs Iowa IGT
« on: March 1, 2015, 12:31 AM »
Pretty sure Pat wouldn't accept the CBI invite this year, although I can see them leaving the decision solely to DJ and the seniors. And since they didn't heed the coaches "take a break" demand after last week's debacle, they do look like they still want to play. If the kids wanna play, I guess we may be in there, as detrimental it will be to all the average fans. I just can't fathom a postseason invite at 3-15, even if it's the same overall record as last year. But the CBI practically begs for major conference money so who knows.

Penn State Basketball / Re: vs Iowa IGT
« on: February 28, 2015, 09:02 PM »
Is simply catching the ball iin the post a lack of coaching fundamentals or a lack of talent? Don't mean to hate on Dickerson either, because he actually overperformed for his standards. He had a great game, although he couldn't come up with 2 big free throws.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Big Ten hoops news
« on: February 28, 2015, 01:45 PM »
So Abdur-Rakhman is showing he's a much bigger talent than I originally thought. Chalk one up against me.

And in fairness to the prior regime, he's the kind of guy that DeChellis probably would've landed with ease.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Tracking the Commitments
« on: February 28, 2015, 01:41 PM »
Not only that, only his second year in the US period.  And he came here not knowing English.

Here's how I look at Davis (and Isaiah W.). He was offered after in-person evaluations by both Anderson and Chambers himself. That means this staff believes he can play at the level he needs to. They used a valuable scholarship that is always of great benefit during July/August on him. Especially for this staff, who is fearless on the recruiting trail and are constantly seen going after the most coveted "high risers" in July (for example - Samir Sehic and Kerry Blackshear this cycle, even if we didn't come close to getting them).

This is completely unlike DeChellis, who took these kind of reaches regularly in the spring, after already striking out on top targets in the fall. There are 28 uncommitted prospects in 247's top-200 in 2015. I'm not sure if the committed guys all signed in the early period or not, but I'd guarantee at least 90% of them did (because anyone who follows recruiting knows this is the trend in college basketball every year). Of these 28, 10 are out of our league in the Top-50 (in fact, 9 of them are in the "future NBA lottery" pick range of the top-15. Because those guys control the market and can pick wherever they wanna go at the last second. ALL schools would make room for them, even us). So for us to get a recruit like Davis in the spring, with his lack of exposure and unimpressive numbers, that's very troubling because the pickings are notably slim at that point in the calendar. I would agree there.

But Davis was hand-picked by Pat after Dwayne found him at the bottom of the WCAC. And frankly, Pat's current track record deserves some respect considering he's only ever really whiffed on one guy in his prep recruiting - Akosa. All other guys have contributed in some capacity this year or last - which is another change from the DeChellis/Dunn era. We had 11 scholarship guys play meaningful minutes and make meaningful contributions at some point this year out of our 12 recruited ones (Isaiah's redshirting).

Davis isn't coming here to be a 35+ MPG starter that can drop 4 or 5 threes a game. The starting nucleus is Thorpe/Garner/Watkins/Reaves/Hampton. TJB throws Julian in that group, but I need to see more . However, there's tremendous value in having a bench, isn't there? The problem with this year's team is there's too many bench players and not enough talent to start/score consistently. Brandon Taylor/Donovon Jack have shown enough to me and some of their numbers back it up that they can get some minutes for a winner at this level. But it has to be the right role. It's a shame they're only going to get one year with Mike Watkins, when he's a frosh.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: February 28, 2015, 10:57 AM »
Stevens, Carr, and Bostick will all be in attendance tonight for the game per Corey Evans. That's bigtime.


That's incredible. (referring more to the timing of this news in lieu of the podcast we just did with Tim and the points we are making with regard to recruiting)

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: February 27, 2015, 03:21 PM »

Stevens and Carr. Two huge targets for the next 9 months to watch.

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