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Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: Yesterday at 07:47 AM »
Josh Verlin has mentioned to me multiple times that Carr is overly complimentary of every school in every interview he does. TIFWIW.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Geno gone
« on: June 13, 2015, 05:51 PM »
From Jones' article:

"Despite Chambers' recent recruiting successes and possibly some upcoming verbal commitments in the coming weeks..."

Wonder if this is just speculation or if he has any the article Jones does mention a Philly AAU coach as well as his "I95 recruiting connections" so perhaps he knows something.

I'll take some good news!

It's that time of year in the recruiting calendar with the spotlight now on the 2016 class. I think about 20% or so of the Top-100 have already made verbal commitments. There will be a few more verbals during all of the camps this month and the AAU period in July, and then the bulk of the list usually will make their decisions from August through early-November after they take official visits on football weekends. About 75% of the Top-100 will sign in the fall, with most of the Top-25 kids dragging their recruitments through their senior season until the Spring.

Most of this staff's recruiting successes have come in the early 20% wave. tjb posted this on the front page recently. Two summers ago at this time, Mike Watkins and Shep Garner were committing (crazy to realize Watkins has been committed for two years and we still haven't seen him in a uniform yet), while they were really close with Mikal Bridges and Kyle Kuzma. Last year around this time, the staff was in hot pursuit of Reaves and the other DMV-area kids, and had one of their best Advanced Skills Camp turnouts. Already this year, they've landed two commitments in the last 6 weeks with another busy summer yet to come.

As it stands now, Penn State currently has six scholarships for the 2016 class. Joe Hampton and Nazeer Bostick have already committed, but there's still four more openings to fill. It seems safe to consider the Johncarlos Reyes recruitment over considering it's now mid-June, and he's taking trips to other college campuses. There also hasn't been any public reports of PSU chasing any potential transfers, so it doesn't seem a late addition to next year is in the fold.

This point has been made countless times, but Geno's departure just adds more pressure to this critical recruiting class. It's gotta be a good one with quality and depth. I thought DJones nailed it in his piece. Penn State's biggest problem has always been a talent deficiency compared to its peers in the league. Geno's game wasn't flawless and there are some elements that Josh Reaves seems capable of replacing, but Geno already was playing at a Big Ten level. He belonged. We have too many guys who don't belong yet at this stage in their careers. It's the same kind of blow when Jermaine Marshall left two years ago. That loss really hurt the 2013-2014 team IMO, and I expect Geno's departure to have a similar effect on next year's team, although the expectations for the "best backcourt in the country' trio in 2013-2014 were much higher than they are for this team.

Landing Tony Carr could make up for this loss. But even a monumental achievement like that wouldn't be the same as it could have been with Geno still at PSU. The 2016-2017 roster now seemingly needs 2 Tony Carrs to truly be where we thought we'd be if the dream came true. 

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: June 3, 2015, 02:09 PM »
1.5: Interest in him has picked up and he's taking advantage of it to make the best choice for him.

Agree with this. I may be the one at fault for suggesting PSU was in better position than they ever might have been to be honest, but he also went from a Patriot League recruit to a High Major recruit in just about 4 weeks. I expect Penn State will make his final list, but if Villanova offers, that's gonna be really tough to overcome. Villanova has always seemed to fill the college hoops void in Central PA. If he actually commits to Iowa though...

Walker/Bamba in the next class will be a war, but it would be possible with success in this class, IMO.

Bamba already is getting the "next Kevin Garnett" label after dominating the Pangos camp this past weekend. He's gonna be a 5* guy, if he isn't already. I wouldn't be too keen on PSU being a serious player in his recruitment, especially since he's more an NYC guy with the PSA Cardinals.

Penn State Basketball / Re: 2015-16 OOC opponents thread
« on: May 21, 2015, 04:14 PM »
The home hockey schedule just leaked out.  So far, there are no hockey/hoop doubleheaders outside of the one in NYC.

December 5th looks like a strong possibility of a hoops/hockey double-header. Maybe November 14th, if PSU doesn't open the season on opening night (November 13th). Otherwise, the start of hoops season will coincide with the SH game in Pegula.

I'd start Geno over Reaves in that lineup.  If lineup 1 is the starting lineup for the B1G season, it could be an exciting year.  That tells me our freshman class is ahead of my schedule (Watkins in particular).

It would certainly be promising for the future, but it's still probably not going to lead to more wins. League will be tougher next year, especially inside. Not saying that's what you implied, we just know there are others on this board ready to pounce about how delusional it is to expect a true freshman big man to start in the Big Ten.

All I know is the coaching staff isn't doing themselves any favors in recruiting if one of their main pitches - immediate playing time - doesn't come to fruition for Reaves/Watkins when we're still undoubtedly towards the bottom of the league next year. Both of those guys are going to log major minutes from day one.

Lineup 1
PG Garner
SG Reaves
SF Taylor
PF Watkins
C Dickerson

Lineup 2
PG Foster
SG Thorpe
SF Banks/Zemgulis
PF Jack
C Moore

Thorpe comes off the bench as 6th man.  We weren't very good last year and lost a potential NBA player, so why not pencil in a couple new guys.

Have no idea what to think about Washington, but if Zemgulis can knock down the 3 like he did in that video he might also see the floor.

I think your lineup #1 here is Pat's ideal lineup for the Big Ten season - if Reaves/Watkins are ready for that at that point. Geno would log just as many minutes off the bench, too. Or you can just flip-flop Reaves/Geno.

I don't think we'll see much of Jack this year, unless he's needed due to foul trouble or he unexpectedly gains 25 pounds.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Re: Welcome to campus Josh Reaves
« on: May 21, 2015, 01:48 PM »
It sucks to be in year 5 and feeling like we're just getting started with Pat, or that we're still 2 or 3 years away from really competing IF the recruiting keeps up like we think it will and these players all pan out the way we hope. 

But like all the "ed apologists" said 5 years ago, this is the kind of job where you need 6-10 years to really get some traction.  Without getting very lucky or buying a ridiculously expensive head coach (who would still need some luck imo), every coach we bring in needs the better part of a decade tryout.  It's painful when that doesn't work out and we're quickly approaching the moment of truth on Pat, but that's our reality here.  You either accept it or find a different program to root for. :/

I don't agree with this. The joke of a program handed to DeChellis was gonna take a decade. The scholarship logjam Chambers inherited in addition to operating through Sandusky and no administration for 3 years has given him a deserved leash as well.

But if Pat doesn't work out, the next coach should have all the necessary tools under Barbour and a footprint in Philadelphia to build off of. If Pat's proven anything, it's that it is possible to get Big Ten caliber recruits to State College in today's recruiting world. We shouldn't have to wait 5 years to finally start gaining traction on the recruiting trail, which is kind of silly anyway considering your flavor as a coach has long gone stale if you don't win in 5+ years. That's the battle Chambers is fighting now. A new coach has the most momentum at the start of his tenure. Look at Chris Mullin at St. John's. He's already landed like 5-6 reputable players in just two months. Hell, Pat was well on his way his first year until things were derailed in 2012.

This athletic department has far too many resources to not raise expectations in recruiting and on the court.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: May 21, 2015, 12:29 PM »

Quote from: Coach Chambers
"But I also think it's really important to recruit the kids as individuals. And know that we might not get those other kids, but we're gonna take this kid. And I'm damn happy about that."

I don't think he cares for the Nazeer Bostick haters.

Penn State Basketball / Re: 2015-16 OOC opponents thread
« on: May 21, 2015, 07:41 AM »
Per Pat last night, Drexel game at the Palestra is Dec 19/

FINALLY no conflict with football when we're in Philly.

This was confirmed by Jon Rothstein this morning. Also, Bucknell will be back on the schedule and in the BJC this season, rumored to be on Thanksgiving weekend, according to this Bucknell board.

Nov. 17 - DePaul
Date TBD - at Duquesne
Nov. 28? - Bucknell
Dec. 2 - at Boston College
Dec. 8 - at George Washington
Dec. ? - TBD - Las Vegas Classic opening round
Dec. ? - TBD - Las Vegas Classic opening round
Dec. 19 - @ Drexel (Palestra)
Dec. 22 - Las Vegas Classic (Kent St/Colorado/SMU)
Dec. 23 - Las Vegas Classic

That leaves 3 games left. Hope one is the start of new home-and-home series at the BJC.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Big Ten hoops news
« on: May 18, 2015, 11:03 AM »
Not sure where to put this so dropping it in here. Interesting read of Michigan hoops recruiting.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Re-Welcome Joe Hampton!!
« on: May 16, 2015, 02:14 PM »
I don't think Hampton is a wing. Someone on 247 said he would be used like how Pinkston or Jenkins are used for Nova. I agree with that.

Well that doesn't make any sense to me since Pinkston and Jenkins are two totally different players. Pinkston primarily operated inside and while he is listed at 6'7" 235, he does have athleticism not yet seen from the tape of Hampton. Jenkins seems like a better comparison considering they both don't move particularly well on the court, but both possess impressive shooting ability for their size. And as tjb mentioned with BT, hopefully PSU will have enough talent around Joe to get him open spots for that sweet shot he has.

For a visual comparison:

Penn State Basketball / Re: Welcome Joe Hampton!!
« on: May 15, 2015, 02:49 PM »
It just dawned on me, does this help us at all with Markelle Fultz?

We can hope but it's expected he will receive a Kentucky offer on his visit this weekend and that will probably be that.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: May 11, 2015, 11:07 AM »
Haven't watched this yet but I'm sure it's interesting. They're doing a documentary on Markelle Fultz's recruitment.

OT / Re: OT - Music Thread
« on: May 10, 2015, 09:13 AM »
I saw my favorite band -- The Replacements -- in Philly tonight. It had been more than 20 years since I last saw them. Seems like it was two or three. Time is sure flying by.

Did you catch J Roddy's opening set? Love those guys.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Chambers seeking assistant coach?
« on: May 5, 2015, 03:45 PM »
No idea why this new coach needs Philly ties.  Between Chambers, Urgo, and Anderson there is more than enough Philly connections to get the recruiting accomplished down there.  Also throw in the recruits that PSU and Chambers have gotten from in the Philly area and that pipeline is already mostly established.  Chambers needs a coach that knows how to develop 4/5 players plain and simple.  Anybody watching PSU the last few years saw that the guard play was fine.  Where PSU gets killed game in and game out was in the post.  And as we have hashed out for years, PSU is NOT going to be getting the 4/5 star polished front court players who come in already ready to play from Day 1, those guys goto Kentucky and Duke and Kansas, etc...PSU has to get guys that have the height but need some work.

Playing college basketball at Villanova or briefly coaching at Villanova =/= Philadelphia ties.

Being a lifelong Philadelphia Native, playing for a Philadelphia high school (Monsignor Bonner), playing for a Philadelphia University (St. Joe's), and coaching for multiple years at a Philadelphia High School = Philadelphia ties

Penn State Basketball / Re: Chambers seeking assistant coach?
« on: May 4, 2015, 11:22 AM »
So what are the odds Daly's replacement has a Team Final affiliation? They do seem to be in need of a new point man in Philadelphia...

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: April 30, 2015, 07:21 AM »
Man, I really thought Painter would be easier than this. Clearly I underestimated his abilities, but it goes to show the power of the AAU circuit in 2015. Just last month with where his recruitment was at, it seemed like he was the ideal "backup" option for this class with offers from the Patriot League. That's clearly no longer the case.

Another possible reason for his recruiting explosion is his purity from today's shoe company politics. This is his first and only year on the "real" AAU circuit. He wasn't raised through grassroots basketball like the majority of these kids who go through U14, U15, U16 with the same programs. Without any true "handlers" in his corner filtering his recruitment, it seems many are quick to jump into the game. Northwestern just started recruiting him before last weekend and he's already got an offer. If the guy is going to remain steadfast in his stance that he's wide open and won't cut down schools until after July, I'm afraid he's gonna approach 40+ offers when it's all said and done.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: April 24, 2015, 03:58 PM »
Painter's recruitment has skyrocketed like crazy. Goes to show how quickly things change these days after one good weekend. Chambers may not have done himself any favors hooking him up with Team Final, if PSU indeed was responsible (I'm just reading between the lines of his quote here and my earlier suspicions, could be completely off base).

People want to label Carr/Stevens as make-or-break guys of this recruiting class. I don't think anyone is "make-or-break" this early in the cycle, but Painter is more important to me due to the fact he's from one of the very few regions in this land that actually pressures an athlete into considering Penn State. Oh, and he's 6'10".

Also Eric Paschall transfer's to Villanova...

I wonder if this will have any bearing in the Lamar Stevens/Tony Carr recruitment for them (and hopefully us)?

CoBL's piece on the transfer...

It probably has more of a bearing on our old buddy Mikal Bridges potentially transferring than anything with current recruits, IMO.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: April 16, 2015, 12:59 PM »
Thanks DJ. That makes me a little more skeptical of him too, but the staff must be pretty confident to let these reports out there. We'll see who makes it Saturday.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: April 16, 2015, 11:23 AM »
I'm still skeptical of these visits with Verlin's rebuttal of Stevens. Not Painter, but we'll have to wait and see with Walker/Carr/Stevens/Bostick. Verlin's far more connected with these kids than anyone on the PSU beat.

As for Fultz, WOW, if he's on campus Saturday. Football people, is Shane Simmons visiting this weekend? I have to wonder if that's Fultz's ride. If he's coming on his own after how his stock just blew threw the roof (with offers from Louisville/Kansas after being an unknown JV prospect last year), that's remarkable. I think that should also put to rest any DA rumors, at least for the time being.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: April 10, 2015, 12:01 PM »
Patrick Chambers @Coach_Chambers    1h 1 hour ago

Hoping on the plane w/ Coach Urgo - stopping by @PITourney to see @djnewbill before starting weekend... #weare

Well there's the EYBL representatives. If I had to guess, Dwayne will be in New Orleans for the UA event and Daly will be in Dallas for the Adidas event.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: April 10, 2015, 10:48 AM »
Today marks the first of two 3-day evaluation periods in April. PSU will surely be watching Team Final in the first 2015 session of Nike's EYBL down in Hampton, VA at Boo Williams.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Tim Frazier in the NBA
« on: April 4, 2015, 11:38 AM »
WatchESPN has the broadcast archived too.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: March 31, 2015, 06:45 PM »
Josh Verlin ‏@jmverlin  16m16 minutes ago
Hershey (Pa.)/Team Final 2015 PF Dylan Painter tells me he's been offered by Penn State.

He's 2016 though, not 2015

Guess the staff feels he's capable already. I'd be shocked if PSU doesn't close this one sooner than later.

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