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Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: July 23, 2015, 02:37 PM »
Interesting stars analysis from BHGP today. Keep in mind while reading, PSU now will have two 4-star players on their roster :)

Actually, the BGHP analysis uses the Rivals rankings, and both Reaves and Watkins are 3-stars by that measure  ???

Nice catch. I try to just go by the 247composite rankings until the RSCI is final. This reminded me to check - Reaves/Watkins didn't make the cut as Top-100 players in the 2015 RSCI. So that makes 18 years of their rankings and not one PSU player made the cut in the most objective Top-100 list there can possibly be (which still isn't very objective at all). That's a problem. One that Tony Carr could fix ;)

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: July 22, 2015, 02:44 PM »
BSD has a new recruiting update out; nothing really new on Carr / Stevens but some interesting tidbits on other PSU targets.

Lonnie Walker is an enigma. So highly rated, so "Penn State country",  and we have not really seemed to be a player. Would be interested in what's going on there.

And he really performs in the classroom. And he can really shoot the heck outta the ball with great bounce and size at the 2-guard. It really is puzzling. Makes you wonder what the background is, but for whatever reason, the staff doesn't seem to have an 'in'.

Interesting stars analysis from BHGP today. Keep in mind while reading, PSU now will have two 4-star players on their roster :)

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: July 22, 2015, 10:15 AM »
Just to clarify, you mean the Temple guy changed his CB to PSU for Carr?

Yeah, sorry about that. I fixed it.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: July 22, 2015, 07:32 AM »
2 new targets for PC.  Transferring to Oak Hill Academy, former home of Josh Reaves. 

Braxton Blackwell:
Mario Kegler:

I know little about Blackwell other than he cut his list down to 6 yesterday. Too late for anything there.

I don't know much about Kegler either other than he has a reputation for keeping his recruitment low key. He is transferring to Oak Hill with Joe and PSU was reportedly scouting him in the first live period, so maybe there's something there?

The Temple 247 guy changed his CB to PSU for Tony Carr...

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: July 21, 2015, 01:20 AM »
I'm sorry if I come across as dismissive. I could be completely wrong about Moore's recruitment like anyone else. But my issue is there's no evidence PSU remains on the table right now. Moore didn't come to Elite camp this year with his best friend and instead camped at Central Florida. His only other recent offer that's out there is UMass. His size has obviously prevented his recruitment from taking off, because even though he's been very productive on the UA circuit, no one's biting. I don't wanna talk down anymore about this innocent player, because that's exactly why I get sensitive about some of these things in the first place.

I've just seen too many cases of misreported recruitments, whether by the media, AAU coaches, fans, parents, or recruits themselves. They never end well for anybody. I want the best for Alani Moore and while it still may be Penn State in the end, I'd like to think we'd need a little more to go off of than a playful quote with his best friend present before we start speculating/hypothesizing potential commitments. But this is like the third or fourth conversation on this topic I've seen around PSU sites these days, so it's already gaining traction among the fanbase. Next will be the cringeworthy, pro-PSU tweets from fans to a player who may not even have an offer anymore.

If we're going to talk about Moore at PSU, why aren't we talking about AJ Wilson? Would PSU take his verbal over Lamar Stevens/DeAndre Hunter right now? Does anyone want that?

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: July 20, 2015, 07:24 PM »
This Alani Moore talk is getting out of control. I have no inside info, but if I was a betting man, I'd say PSU isn't even actively recruiting him anymore. If they are, he absolutely has to be behind Carr in the pecking order. You don't sell out for a talent like Tony Carr, assure him of immediate playing time, and then accept a commitment from a 5'8" point guard before Carr's decision (that's only like 4-5 weeks away). That is a potentially catastrophic risk and for what in return? An undersized point guard that's only being recruited by UMass and Central Florida right now? When there's already TSam and Shep capable of manning the position for two years with Carr?

It's conversations like these that always remind me of the UL Matrix disclaimer. I will be disappointed in this staff if they take Carr and Moore, especially with the incredible talent in the 2017 class that they already don't have many scholarships for. It would ruin for me what should be an incredible achievement, if they do in fact land Carr's commitment.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Tim Frazier in the NBA
« on: July 13, 2015, 12:07 AM »
Tim played better today than he did yesterday, IMO. Blazers won comfortably 93-80. Frazier was in complete control of the game from start to finish. He was mostly matched up against Jeremy Pangos. Finished with 14 points (6-11 FGA), 8 assists, 5 rebounds and just 2 turnovers. +21 in 28 minutes.

Followed along with SB Nation's Blazers' site. They loved him. He's really making a strong case to have a vaulable role on the Blazers this season as Lillard's backup. He might not have to fret anymore through July 31st when his contract becomes guaranteed.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: July 2, 2015, 04:22 PM »
A lot of people talking Rakocevic to Iowa now that Bo is retiring from Wisconsin.  He'd take up Painter's spot in the class.

Xavier picked up a 6'9" PF in Tyrique Jones. Not sure of their roster but that couldn't hurt with Painter at least either.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: June 29, 2015, 07:47 AM »
Josh Verlin has mentioned to me multiple times that Carr is overly complimentary of every school in every interview he does. TIFWIW.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Geno gone
« on: June 13, 2015, 05:51 PM »
From Jones' article:

"Despite Chambers' recent recruiting successes and possibly some upcoming verbal commitments in the coming weeks..."

Wonder if this is just speculation or if he has any the article Jones does mention a Philly AAU coach as well as his "I95 recruiting connections" so perhaps he knows something.

I'll take some good news!

It's that time of year in the recruiting calendar with the spotlight now on the 2016 class. I think about 20% or so of the Top-100 have already made verbal commitments. There will be a few more verbals during all of the camps this month and the AAU period in July, and then the bulk of the list usually will make their decisions from August through early-November after they take official visits on football weekends. About 75% of the Top-100 will sign in the fall, with most of the Top-25 kids dragging their recruitments through their senior season until the Spring.

Most of this staff's recruiting successes have come in the early 20% wave. tjb posted this on the front page recently. Two summers ago at this time, Mike Watkins and Shep Garner were committing (crazy to realize Watkins has been committed for two years and we still haven't seen him in a uniform yet), while they were really close with Mikal Bridges and Kyle Kuzma. Last year around this time, the staff was in hot pursuit of Reaves and the other DMV-area kids, and had one of their best Advanced Skills Camp turnouts. Already this year, they've landed two commitments in the last 6 weeks with another busy summer yet to come.

As it stands now, Penn State currently has six scholarships for the 2016 class. Joe Hampton and Nazeer Bostick have already committed, but there's still four more openings to fill. It seems safe to consider the Johncarlos Reyes recruitment over considering it's now mid-June, and he's taking trips to other college campuses. There also hasn't been any public reports of PSU chasing any potential transfers, so it doesn't seem a late addition to next year is in the fold.

This point has been made countless times, but Geno's departure just adds more pressure to this critical recruiting class. It's gotta be a good one with quality and depth. I thought DJones nailed it in his piece. Penn State's biggest problem has always been a talent deficiency compared to its peers in the league. Geno's game wasn't flawless and there are some elements that Josh Reaves seems capable of replacing, but Geno already was playing at a Big Ten level. He belonged. We have too many guys who don't belong yet at this stage in their careers. It's the same kind of blow when Jermaine Marshall left two years ago. That loss really hurt the 2013-2014 team IMO, and I expect Geno's departure to have a similar effect on next year's team, although the expectations for the "best backcourt in the country' trio in 2013-2014 were much higher than they are for this team.

Landing Tony Carr could make up for this loss. But even a monumental achievement like that wouldn't be the same as it could have been with Geno still at PSU. The 2016-2017 roster now seemingly needs 2 Tony Carrs to truly be where we thought we'd be if the dream came true. 

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: June 3, 2015, 02:09 PM »
1.5: Interest in him has picked up and he's taking advantage of it to make the best choice for him.

Agree with this. I may be the one at fault for suggesting PSU was in better position than they ever might have been to be honest, but he also went from a Patriot League recruit to a High Major recruit in just about 4 weeks. I expect Penn State will make his final list, but if Villanova offers, that's gonna be really tough to overcome. Villanova has always seemed to fill the college hoops void in Central PA. If he actually commits to Iowa though...

Walker/Bamba in the next class will be a war, but it would be possible with success in this class, IMO.

Bamba already is getting the "next Kevin Garnett" label after dominating the Pangos camp this past weekend. He's gonna be a 5* guy, if he isn't already. I wouldn't be too keen on PSU being a serious player in his recruitment, especially since he's more an NYC guy with the PSA Cardinals.

Penn State Basketball / Re: 2015-16 OOC opponents thread
« on: May 21, 2015, 04:14 PM »
The home hockey schedule just leaked out.  So far, there are no hockey/hoop doubleheaders outside of the one in NYC.

December 5th looks like a strong possibility of a hoops/hockey double-header. Maybe November 14th, if PSU doesn't open the season on opening night (November 13th). Otherwise, the start of hoops season will coincide with the SH game in Pegula.

I'd start Geno over Reaves in that lineup.  If lineup 1 is the starting lineup for the B1G season, it could be an exciting year.  That tells me our freshman class is ahead of my schedule (Watkins in particular).

It would certainly be promising for the future, but it's still probably not going to lead to more wins. League will be tougher next year, especially inside. Not saying that's what you implied, we just know there are others on this board ready to pounce about how delusional it is to expect a true freshman big man to start in the Big Ten.

All I know is the coaching staff isn't doing themselves any favors in recruiting if one of their main pitches - immediate playing time - doesn't come to fruition for Reaves/Watkins when we're still undoubtedly towards the bottom of the league next year. Both of those guys are going to log major minutes from day one.

Lineup 1
PG Garner
SG Reaves
SF Taylor
PF Watkins
C Dickerson

Lineup 2
PG Foster
SG Thorpe
SF Banks/Zemgulis
PF Jack
C Moore

Thorpe comes off the bench as 6th man.  We weren't very good last year and lost a potential NBA player, so why not pencil in a couple new guys.

Have no idea what to think about Washington, but if Zemgulis can knock down the 3 like he did in that video he might also see the floor.

I think your lineup #1 here is Pat's ideal lineup for the Big Ten season - if Reaves/Watkins are ready for that at that point. Geno would log just as many minutes off the bench, too. Or you can just flip-flop Reaves/Geno.

I don't think we'll see much of Jack this year, unless he's needed due to foul trouble or he unexpectedly gains 25 pounds.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Re: Welcome to campus Josh Reaves
« on: May 21, 2015, 01:48 PM »
It sucks to be in year 5 and feeling like we're just getting started with Pat, or that we're still 2 or 3 years away from really competing IF the recruiting keeps up like we think it will and these players all pan out the way we hope. 

But like all the "ed apologists" said 5 years ago, this is the kind of job where you need 6-10 years to really get some traction.  Without getting very lucky or buying a ridiculously expensive head coach (who would still need some luck imo), every coach we bring in needs the better part of a decade tryout.  It's painful when that doesn't work out and we're quickly approaching the moment of truth on Pat, but that's our reality here.  You either accept it or find a different program to root for. :/

I don't agree with this. The joke of a program handed to DeChellis was gonna take a decade. The scholarship logjam Chambers inherited in addition to operating through Sandusky and no administration for 3 years has given him a deserved leash as well.

But if Pat doesn't work out, the next coach should have all the necessary tools under Barbour and a footprint in Philadelphia to build off of. If Pat's proven anything, it's that it is possible to get Big Ten caliber recruits to State College in today's recruiting world. We shouldn't have to wait 5 years to finally start gaining traction on the recruiting trail, which is kind of silly anyway considering your flavor as a coach has long gone stale if you don't win in 5+ years. That's the battle Chambers is fighting now. A new coach has the most momentum at the start of his tenure. Look at Chris Mullin at St. John's. He's already landed like 5-6 reputable players in just two months. Hell, Pat was well on his way his first year until things were derailed in 2012.

This athletic department has far too many resources to not raise expectations in recruiting and on the court.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: May 21, 2015, 12:29 PM »

Quote from: Coach Chambers
"But I also think it's really important to recruit the kids as individuals. And know that we might not get those other kids, but we're gonna take this kid. And I'm damn happy about that."

I don't think he cares for the Nazeer Bostick haters.

Penn State Basketball / Re: 2015-16 OOC opponents thread
« on: May 21, 2015, 07:41 AM »
Per Pat last night, Drexel game at the Palestra is Dec 19/

FINALLY no conflict with football when we're in Philly.

This was confirmed by Jon Rothstein this morning. Also, Bucknell will be back on the schedule and in the BJC this season, rumored to be on Thanksgiving weekend, according to this Bucknell board.

Nov. 17 - DePaul
Date TBD - at Duquesne
Nov. 28? - Bucknell
Dec. 2 - at Boston College
Dec. 8 - at George Washington
Dec. ? - TBD - Las Vegas Classic opening round
Dec. ? - TBD - Las Vegas Classic opening round
Dec. 19 - @ Drexel (Palestra)
Dec. 22 - Las Vegas Classic (Kent St/Colorado/SMU)
Dec. 23 - Las Vegas Classic

That leaves 3 games left. Hope one is the start of new home-and-home series at the BJC.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Big Ten hoops news
« on: May 18, 2015, 11:03 AM »
Not sure where to put this so dropping it in here. Interesting read of Michigan hoops recruiting.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Re-Welcome Joe Hampton!!
« on: May 16, 2015, 02:14 PM »
I don't think Hampton is a wing. Someone on 247 said he would be used like how Pinkston or Jenkins are used for Nova. I agree with that.

Well that doesn't make any sense to me since Pinkston and Jenkins are two totally different players. Pinkston primarily operated inside and while he is listed at 6'7" 235, he does have athleticism not yet seen from the tape of Hampton. Jenkins seems like a better comparison considering they both don't move particularly well on the court, but both possess impressive shooting ability for their size. And as tjb mentioned with BT, hopefully PSU will have enough talent around Joe to get him open spots for that sweet shot he has.

For a visual comparison:

Penn State Basketball / Re: Welcome Joe Hampton!!
« on: May 15, 2015, 02:49 PM »
It just dawned on me, does this help us at all with Markelle Fultz?

We can hope but it's expected he will receive a Kentucky offer on his visit this weekend and that will probably be that.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: May 11, 2015, 11:07 AM »
Haven't watched this yet but I'm sure it's interesting. They're doing a documentary on Markelle Fultz's recruitment.

OT / Re: OT - Music Thread
« on: May 10, 2015, 09:13 AM »
I saw my favorite band -- The Replacements -- in Philly tonight. It had been more than 20 years since I last saw them. Seems like it was two or three. Time is sure flying by.

Did you catch J Roddy's opening set? Love those guys.

Penn State Basketball / Re: Chambers seeking assistant coach?
« on: May 5, 2015, 03:45 PM »
No idea why this new coach needs Philly ties.  Between Chambers, Urgo, and Anderson there is more than enough Philly connections to get the recruiting accomplished down there.  Also throw in the recruits that PSU and Chambers have gotten from in the Philly area and that pipeline is already mostly established.  Chambers needs a coach that knows how to develop 4/5 players plain and simple.  Anybody watching PSU the last few years saw that the guard play was fine.  Where PSU gets killed game in and game out was in the post.  And as we have hashed out for years, PSU is NOT going to be getting the 4/5 star polished front court players who come in already ready to play from Day 1, those guys goto Kentucky and Duke and Kansas, etc...PSU has to get guys that have the height but need some work.

Playing college basketball at Villanova or briefly coaching at Villanova =/= Philadelphia ties.

Being a lifelong Philadelphia Native, playing for a Philadelphia high school (Monsignor Bonner), playing for a Philadelphia University (St. Joe's), and coaching for multiple years at a Philadelphia High School = Philadelphia ties

Penn State Basketball / Re: Chambers seeking assistant coach?
« on: May 4, 2015, 11:22 AM »
So what are the odds Daly's replacement has a Team Final affiliation? They do seem to be in need of a new point man in Philadelphia...

Penn State Basketball / Re: Recruiting
« on: April 30, 2015, 07:21 AM »
Man, I really thought Painter would be easier than this. Clearly I underestimated his abilities, but it goes to show the power of the AAU circuit in 2015. Just last month with where his recruitment was at, it seemed like he was the ideal "backup" option for this class with offers from the Patriot League. That's clearly no longer the case.

Another possible reason for his recruiting explosion is his purity from today's shoe company politics. This is his first and only year on the "real" AAU circuit. He wasn't raised through grassroots basketball like the majority of these kids who go through U14, U15, U16 with the same programs. Without any true "handlers" in his corner filtering his recruitment, it seems many are quick to jump into the game. Northwestern just started recruiting him before last weekend and he's already got an offer. If the guy is going to remain steadfast in his stance that he's wide open and won't cut down schools until after July, I'm afraid he's gonna approach 40+ offers when it's all said and done.

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